Both of the people I have a dynamic with (my partner, curvy_bottom and our toy) have consented not to use their personal pronouns within our dynamic.
This means in interactions with me, each other and with anyone in a public D/s context.
It does not mean altering their language at work, out and about, or with friends (even kinky friends) in a non D/s context.
Posting on BDSM websites is, as far as I’m concerned, a proper context for this discipline.
My partner has done this since 2008 (with many lapses 🙂 ). Why? This is how I put it at the time:
“Despite my protestations otherwise you are not a bear of little brain. And I see no reason why I should not engage that enormous organ in the service of our dynamic.
Set aside for a moment your humanity, empathy, imagination, tenderness, thoughtfulness and all the other qualities that make me love you and ask why I should not challenge your intelligence?
Of course I should. And this does – doing without ‘I’ and ‘me’ is tricky I admit, but I can’t go much further, can I, in focussing you on me, even in my absence, than by asking you to moderate your language.
Now tell me that you won’t enjoy the challenge.”
I don’t (and won’t) punish either for failing in this. I do (and will) punish them for failing to try. There are exceptions too. Deep, important (or passionate ) conversations are difficult if you are parsing you language into an unnatural form – so it gets suspended then.
Over the years c_b and I have found this challenging discipline really useful. It’s much less about language and much more about creating a focus in conversation that we both find helpful.
Sometimes the language feels natural, but we both know it masks something. She doesn’t say “I’m gasping for a cuppa” – she does say “would you like tea?”. In fact, this is one of its biggest impacts – it converts statements and demands to questions and requests. This suits us.
Sometimes it becomes more inclusive. People in couples/families often say “We think”. She may do it more often (as long as she knows it’s true that it is a shared view).
It creates endearments that, to us, seem special: “I Love you” isn’t said. “You are loved” is. Often.
Sometimes, it’s just damned awkward. Whilst frustrating this is usually just amusing.
This is very new to the toy, of course. And potentially difficult for her. She doesn’t think much before she speaks (she doesn’t usually need to – what she says is what she feels and believes) and changing the structure of what she says is frustrating for her. I’m hoping practice will help.
The aim of this with the toy is not the same. In this case, losing the personal pronoun is much more about helping with her deep desire to have a part of her life that is dedicated to being an object cherished for its usefulness, well maintained at all times (which means having prime regard for her welfare) and used to further my dynamic with my partner (which can only happen because the toy gets profound satisfaction from service as a discrete part of all of her life). In this case, losing the pp is all about making her feel different and changed.
I am one person who has always been repelled by the affectation of submissives using the third person.
Using the first person takes responsibility,using the third sounds like evading it,distancing oneself from the proceedings.Queen Victoria spoke of herself in the third person in her diaries and I feel the same haughtiness no matter how much a third-person-using slave may be trying to grovel.
No haughtiness nor grovelling in my view.
I also don’t feel it distances anyone from what’s going on. I think it changes focus from self to significant other. For me, that’s helpful.
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